Comments for Wit Happens http://withappens.wordpress.com Waldron's other other blog Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:20:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on McLaughlin and Co. Mostly* Retarded by Obama Must… « Wit Happens http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/mclaughlin-and-co-mostly-retarded/#comment-80 Obama Must… « Wit Happens Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:20:25 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=47#comment-80 [...] shifts immediately from Hillary to Obama. As of right now she’s still the story. The retarded McLaughlin Group dedicated time this weekend to a discussion of how Hillary might still be able to worm her way into [...] [...] shifts immediately from Hillary to Obama. As of right now she’s still the story. The retarded McLaughlin Group dedicated time this weekend to a discussion of how Hillary might still be able to worm her way into [...]

]]> Comment on Obama Veepstakes & Hillary by Mr. Cheeseburger 9000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/obama-veepstakes-hillary/#comment-78 Mr. Cheeseburger 9000 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:00:10 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=48#comment-78 very good point. the issue is that she has been fighting for so long that she doesn't know when to stop. maybe bill should be the good husband and tell her to bow out . . . unless bill, the seemingly and increasingly unstable one, is telling her to fight on for some higher moral principle. in the end, i hope the democrats can recognize that there are viable candidates other than just hillary. of course, with hillary and obama literally owning the political landscape in the last few months makes it very hard to even visualize someone other than hillary on the landscape . . . very good point. the issue is that she has been fighting for so long that she doesn’t know when to stop. maybe bill should be the good husband and tell her to bow out . . . unless bill, the seemingly and increasingly unstable one, is telling her to fight on for some higher moral principle. in the end, i hope the democrats can recognize that there are viable candidates other than just hillary. of course, with hillary and obama literally owning the political landscape in the last few months makes it very hard to even visualize someone other than hillary on the landscape . . .

]]> Comment on The Differences by Clinton Had No Strategy « Wit Happens http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/the-differences/#comment-74 Clinton Had No Strategy « Wit Happens Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:24:40 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-74 [...] No Strategy Here’s a problem facing the Clinton candidacy. This time we look beyond the turmoil in her campaign, but look instead to her own leadership: if getting elected is so important to Hillary (and it [...] [...] No Strategy Here’s a problem facing the Clinton candidacy. This time we look beyond the turmoil in her campaign, but look instead to her own leadership: if getting elected is so important to Hillary (and it [...]

]]> Comment on The L Word by citizenwells http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-73 citizenwells Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:00:46 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-73 My statements, my responses and my blog stand on their own. I have used precise language, called facts, facts and allegations, allegations. Best wishes. My statements, my responses and my blog stand on their own.
I have used precise language, called facts, facts and allegations, allegations.
Best wishes.

]]> Comment on The L Word by withappens http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-72 withappens Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:36:14 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-72 That wasn't a personal attack. A personal attack would be if I called you a shallow-minded, stupid, right-wing robot with no ability to discern the difference between propaganda attack-tactics and actual journalism. But that's not what I'm calling you, so don't feel as though you've been attacked. See how that works? Even as I disavow the attack, in some sense, it is still made. Same thing as when you say "these are not my allegations". Take some responsibility. That wasn’t a personal attack. A personal attack would be if I called you a shallow-minded, stupid, right-wing robot with no ability to discern the difference between propaganda attack-tactics and actual journalism. But that’s not what I’m calling you, so don’t feel as though you’ve been attacked.

See how that works? Even as I disavow the attack, in some sense, it is still made. Same thing as when you say “these are not my allegations”. Take some responsibility.

]]> Comment on The L Word by citizenwells http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-71 citizenwells Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:26:57 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-71 Here come the personal attacks again. This just adds fuel to the fire. The more I see Obama supporters getting defensive about questions being asked, the more convinced I am Obama is hiding something. Did you read my comment? "These are not my allegations!!!!!!!" "Once again, I did not make those allegations" You asked for allegations. I gave them to you. What do you want? The press is already giving Obama a free ride. If something has been debunked, show me the evidence. Show me the records. Here come the personal attacks again.
This just adds fuel to the fire. The more I see Obama supporters
getting defensive about questions being asked, the more convinced
I am Obama is hiding something.
Did you read my comment?
“These are not my allegations!!!!!!!”
“Once again, I did not make those allegations”
You asked for allegations. I gave them to you.
What do you want?
The press is already giving Obama a free ride.
If something has been debunked, show me the evidence.
Show me the records.

]]> Comment on The L Word by withappens http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-70 withappens Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:18:01 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-70 If they are not your allegations, I suggest you stop making them, or point to a valid news source. And perhaps you should identify them not simply as allegations, but rather, as debunked allegations: http://www.bloggernews.net/114055 . The act of listing these kinds of unsubstantiated (or often debunked) accusations, while taking no responsibility for them, is right out of the Rove and Fox News playbook. This sort of "I don't know if it's true, but I heard blah blah blah" crap is better left in junior high school where it belongs. But it isn't journalism, it isn't news, and it isn't honorable. Shame on you. If you're an "older guy" you should certainly know better than that. And for the record, one of the reasons I'm such a supporter of Obama is that I want my brand new first child to have a worthy model as the first president he'll ever know. If they are not your allegations, I suggest you stop making them, or point to a valid news source. And perhaps you should identify them not simply as allegations, but rather, as debunked allegations: http://www.bloggernews.net/114055 .

The act of listing these kinds of unsubstantiated (or often debunked) accusations, while taking no responsibility for them, is right out of the Rove and Fox News playbook. This sort of “I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard blah blah blah” crap is better left in junior high school where it belongs. But it isn’t journalism, it isn’t news, and it isn’t honorable.

Shame on you. If you’re an “older guy” you should certainly know better than that. And for the record, one of the reasons I’m such a supporter of Obama is that I want my brand new first child to have a worthy model as the first president he’ll ever know.

]]> Comment on The L Word by citizenwells http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-68 citizenwells Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:39:29 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-68 Obligatory older guy comment: I had my first grandchild last year. I know this sounds corny, but the decisions we make will affect us, our children's children and so on. Just like the "greatest generation", that I have so much respect for, fought and died to save the world, we all have an obligation to protect the world. One person, one vote, one action can make a difference. Obligatory older guy comment:
I had my first grandchild last year.
I know this sounds corny, but the decisions we make will affect us,
our children’s children and so on.
Just like the “greatest generation”, that I have so much respect for,
fought and died to save the world, we all have an obligation
to protect the world. One person, one vote, one action can
make a difference.

]]> Comment on The L Word by citizenwells http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-67 citizenwells Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:23:43 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-67 I will provide a few. These are not my allegations!!!!!!! 1. Obama stated that he did not hear the hate speeches of Jeremiah Wright and Obama has acted as if he was unaware of the pattern of comments from pastor Wright. This is a lie and is corroborated by multiple major media articles. 2. He effectively told a lie when he commented about the remarks of Don Imus in April 11, 2007. He indicated he would not tolerate such behaviour. The comments that Imus made were very tame compared to the ongoing comments from Wright, not to mention Farrakhan. It is further documented by the NY Times that Obama and Wright knew this was a problem early in 2007. 3. Larry Sinclair has alleged a drug and gay sex encounter multiple times between November 3-8 1999. Obama was absent from the Illinois Senate on November 4, 1999. Obama has pointed the finger at Clinton to supply records, yet many in the media have pointed out the hypocrisy of Obama not being more cooperative in supplying records. (I have read his interviews and his answers. Don't even begin to repeat the comments I get on blogs. He had to have had other records aside from the official ones. If he didn't, then he is one of the most incompetent people I have heard about. I would never accuse him of not being clever.) There are records out there somewhere of where he was when not in the senate. 4. Obama lied about contribution amounts from Rezko. Did Obama Lie? I don't know if lie is the right word. Obama did state the wrong amount that he received from Rezko. 5. Obama has been less than honest about his connections with big oil companies. There are more allegations out there and many statements from Obama there are questionable. The ones above are some of the more prominent ones. What concerns me personally the most, is a pattern of deception, misrepresentation and evasiveness. Why am I spending the time on this? Because I care. I already knew a lot about Hillary and McCain. If I had been running for office, I would have presented records as early as possible. I am not running for office, but I can supply fairly complete records going back many years. Anyone connected to traditional business or law firms has to have good records. What Obama was doing in 1999, 2000, 2001, etc is important, especially when allegations are made. Once again, I did not make those allegations. I want the truth and the American public deserves it. I will provide a few.
These are not my allegations!!!!!!!
1. Obama stated that he did not hear the hate speeches of Jeremiah
Wright and Obama has acted as if he was unaware of the pattern of
comments from pastor Wright. This is a lie and is corroborated by
multiple major media articles.

2. He effectively told a lie when he commented about the remarks of
Don Imus in April 11, 2007. He indicated he would not tolerate such
behaviour. The comments that Imus made were very tame compared
to the ongoing comments from Wright, not to mention Farrakhan.
It is further documented by the NY Times that Obama and Wright
knew this was a problem early in 2007.

3. Larry Sinclair has alleged a drug and gay sex encounter multiple
times between November 3-8 1999. Obama was absent from the
Illinois Senate on November 4, 1999. Obama has pointed the finger
at Clinton to supply records, yet many in the media have pointed
out the hypocrisy of Obama not being more cooperative in
supplying records. (I have read his interviews and his answers. Don’t
even begin to repeat the comments I get on blogs. He had to have
had other records aside from the official ones. If he didn’t, then he
is one of the most incompetent people I have heard about. I would
never accuse him of not being clever.)
There are records out there somewhere of where he was when not
in the senate.

4. Obama lied about contribution amounts from Rezko.
Did Obama Lie? I don’t know if lie is the right word.
Obama did state the wrong amount that he received from Rezko.

5. Obama has been less than honest about his connections with
big oil companies.

There are more allegations out there and many statements from
Obama there are questionable. The ones above are some of the
more prominent ones.

What concerns me personally the most, is a pattern of deception,
misrepresentation and evasiveness.

Why am I spending the time on this?
Because I care.
I already knew a lot about Hillary and McCain.

If I had been running for office, I would have presented records
as early as possible. I am not running for office, but I can supply
fairly complete records going back many years. Anyone connected
to traditional business or law firms has to have good records.
What Obama was doing in 1999, 2000, 2001, etc is important,
especially when allegations are made.

Once again, I did not make those allegations.
I want the truth and the American public deserves it.

]]> Comment on The L Word by withappens http://withappens.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-l-word/#comment-66 withappens Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:43:22 +0000 http://withappens.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-66 Note... please be specific. Note… please be specific.

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